For those who are ... By: JFredUK. on 10 Feb 12, 04:29:35 For those who are taking offfence, this is what the Alan Partridge character is all about. He is the epitomy of ignorance when it comes to? any given subject. And, in this case, it's Ireland. He portrays someone who hasn't the faintest idea of what Ireland is really about and relies instead on stereotypes and misinformation. Laugh at him, treat him like the ignorant prick he is, but for crying out loud, don't get offended!
People need to ... By: LearyCian94. on 06 Feb 12, 22:26:44 People need to lighten up. I'm Irish and think what England did here was horrible and nothing less than a holocaust. But this cartoon is more? portraying many English people who remain ignorant to what happened in Ireland and simply discard it as a "famine" and then rant about the ira. It's a hilarious sketch.
Sunday joke is ... By: milkybargoatify. on 15 Jan 12, 21:56:04 Sunday joke is seriously not fuckin' funny, he's a cunt, IRA all? the way!!
@varun009 It's a ... By: RandomTipOfTheDay. on 06 Jan 12, 13:20:01 @varun009 It's a character and it was written? to poke fun at such an annoying ignorant prick.
These two Irishmen? ... By: TUNErCOOL2012. on 02 Jan 12, 19:46:02 These two Irishmen? are writers of Father Ted? I salute sire Partridge..!!
ives? spares. By: 6mmWarrior. on 02 Jan 12, 05:43:07 ives? spares.
Lets all just agree ... By: 6mmWarrior. on 02 Jan 12, 05:41:52 Lets all just agree there was many faults on both sides of the troubles, The IRA had a good goals but terrible methods of going about it. The brits had a lot of people in charge who should not be serving in the military because of certain prejudges ideals, If the british handled the situation more carefully, and the IRA obeyed war laws and relied more on their political party sinn fein, there could? be freedom for the north, but at the same time there would be a lot of irish lives and british l
why doesn't this ... By: varun009. on 26 Dec 11, 12:20:19 why doesn't this fucker shut up and let the? irish guys talk!?!?
@jonoessex Naaa ... By: snodds88. on 16 Dec 11, 19:30:01 @jonoessex Naaa There will never be a united ireland, Most? catholics dont want a united ireland, most of them dont want anything to do with dublin...
@1984ioc? I ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 22:54:59 @1984ioc? I understand your perspective. I'm sure ireland will be re-united someday due to the high catholic birth rate. No one in Britain defends the wrongs done to ireland in the past I second your closing comments
@jonoessex I am ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 22:28:33 @jonoessex I am relatively young but it does pain me 2 see this tiny island divided and having to endure a long lasting legacy of pain + troubles but that's just the way it is? .I hope you understand my perspective and why it is such an awkward topic.
Just have to wait and see what the future holds but the ties between Britain and Ireland have improved substantially even in the last decade alone.10 years ago we would have laughed at the thought of the Queen visiting so long may it continue..
@jonoessex " I'm ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 22:20:23 @jonoessex " I'm consistent in my opposition to war? (unless it's absolutely necessary)."
+1
Well we finally agree on something anyway ;-)
The dissidents are despised by all communites (for the most part) and? they will not succeed in their aims.The only way now is peace and negotiations.There is now approx 16% of people in Northern Ireland who are in favour of a United Ireland (some of that has got to do with the South's disastrous economy) so we have to respect the majority and move on.
@1984ioc The ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 21:13:37 @1984ioc The conflict in NI? was a legacy of british imperialism in ireland. That's true but British policy was not imperialistic during the troubles. I think the old IRA had much stronger moral justification for it's actions. I have no issue with patriotic irish people admiring the old IRA who were fighting against the british empire. It's the PIRA's I have an issue with and as you will agree the dissidents
@1984ioc
I'm anti ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 21:09:41 @1984ioc
I'm anti-IRA and would defend the british military in NI. However I have strenuously opposed british wars in iraq and afghanistan. I was on the first protest against the afghan war in 2001. I also took part in the huge 2003 march? against the war in iraq. I'm consistent in my opposition to war (unless it's absolutely necessary).
@1984ioc That's? ok ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 21:01:06 @1984ioc That's? ok then.
@jonoessex What has ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:51:20 @jonoessex What has happened in Northern Ireland is a direct? result from your Imperialistic days and there are consequences for your actions whether you like it or not.
Once again i apologise if i offended you but it is a sensitive issue which you obvioulsy know and sometimes these things can get heated.
@jonoessex While ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:48:57 @jonoessex While you are right to condemn some of the IRA's tactics during? the troubles maybe you should look closer to home too.Ye have a shocking record of torture and breaking international laws (research waterboarding in northern ireland) so i just find it hypocritical of you in some ways.I have no sympathies for the IRA groups these days but obviously have massive respect for the original IRA as do all Irish people.Everyone here has family that fought or worked for them.
@jonoessex My ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:38:42 @jonoessex My apologies for some of my remarks in the last message and would like if we can continue this in a reasonable manner.I did also not descend into a load of anti-british bile.I do NOT hate the British,quite the opposite and even have family that represented England on the international sports scene in the past despite coming from Ireland.
I do believe that you have a distorted view of the political scene here in some aspects but then again maybe i have distorted views on? such matters.
@1984ioc You ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 20:28:59 @1984ioc You initially sounded like a reasonable person. Then you descended into a load of anti-british bile!? I don'tknow why you don't just join RSF or eirigi if you hate the british so much.
@jonoessex This is ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:03:55 @jonoessex This is getting good.I love it.A brit trying to take the high moral ground on such matters as international laws,torture,killing of innocent civilians.I am warming my hands in excitement.Off for dinner and will be back then to discuss illegal invasions,torture,international laws and torture just to name a few.Glorious Imperial Britain eh?They did everything by the book just as in Iraq and Afghanistan.The most? detested nation on earth.Back in a while and let's discuss this properly.
@1984ioc You are ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 19:58:16 @1984ioc You are underestimating the british media. British people have a mixture of opinions on the issue. There are alot of british people who sympathised with the IRA. I often argued? with friends who sympathised with them. The right-wing press would be more anti-republican and the left-wing more pro-irish nationalist. Almost all the films made about the troubles are from a nationalist perspective. People in britain are exposed to a range of views on the issue and have a range of views.
@1984ioc British ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 19:51:43 @1984ioc British army adherence to international law during the troubles was obviously much better than the IRA's. R U being serious? The IRA had no prohition of torture, the british army did. The british Army prohibited it's soldiers from killing any one who was unarmed even IRA members. How many banks did the british army rob? How many people did the british army kidnap? The IRA didn't follow the rules? of war at all whilst most of the time the british army did.
@jonoessex Well ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 19:46:39 @jonoessex Well thank god they represent such a tiny proportion of people on this island and that they are a dying breed.The younger generations here do not want a return and fortunately they are the future.A United Ireland is out of the question for the foreseeable future and the British won't budge so? their attempts will end in vain.
If you want to associate all Republicanism and Nationalism with Eirigi and Republican SF then that is your choice but you couldn't be further from reality.
@1984ioc Most ... By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 19:39:11 @1984ioc Most people in Ireland don't want a return to violence I know that. Brian leeson from eirigi does want a return to violence he's almost said as much and he is eirigi chairman. Eirigi and? republican sinn fein were involved in the protests and they want a return to violence.
@jonoessex Regards ... By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 18:46:33 @jonoessex Regards the conventions of international law i do believe that Britain's record is far worse regarding these laws (even in the past? decade alone) then the IRA/PIRA.I am not talking about those scum dissident groups here as they represent such a tiny proportion they r not even worth mentioning.Not calling you ignorant either but i do believe that lots of Brits have a distorted view of the past here because of biased media/history books etc. which even politicians admitted was the case
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By: JFredUK. on 10 Feb 12, 04:29:35
For those who are taking offfence, this is what the Alan Partridge character is all about. He is the epitomy of ignorance when it comes to? any given subject. And, in this case, it's Ireland. He portrays someone who hasn't the faintest idea of what Ireland is really about and relies instead on stereotypes and misinformation. Laugh at him, treat him like the ignorant prick he is, but for crying out loud, don't get offended!
By: LearyCian94. on 06 Feb 12, 22:26:44
People need to lighten up. I'm Irish and think what England did here was horrible and nothing less than a holocaust. But this cartoon is more? portraying many English people who remain ignorant to what happened in Ireland and simply discard it as a "famine" and then rant about the ira. It's a hilarious sketch.
By: milkybargoatify. on 15 Jan 12, 21:56:04
Sunday joke is seriously not fuckin' funny, he's a cunt, IRA all? the way!!
By: RandomTipOfTheDay. on 06 Jan 12, 13:20:01
@varun009 It's a character and it was written? to poke fun at such an annoying ignorant prick.
By: TUNErCOOL2012. on 02 Jan 12, 19:46:02
These two Irishmen? are writers of Father Ted? I salute sire Partridge..!!
By: 6mmWarrior. on 02 Jan 12, 05:43:07
ives? spares.
By: 6mmWarrior. on 02 Jan 12, 05:41:52
Lets all just agree there was many faults on both sides of the troubles, The IRA had a good goals but terrible methods of going about it. The brits had a lot of people in charge who should not be serving in the military because of certain prejudges ideals, If the british handled the situation more carefully, and the IRA obeyed war laws and relied more on their political party sinn fein, there could? be freedom for the north, but at the same time there would be a lot of irish lives and british l
By: varun009. on 26 Dec 11, 12:20:19
why doesn't this fucker shut up and let the? irish guys talk!?!?
By: snodds88. on 16 Dec 11, 19:30:01
@jonoessex Naaa There will never be a united ireland, Most? catholics dont want a united ireland, most of them dont want anything to do with dublin...
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 22:54:59
@1984ioc? I understand your perspective. I'm sure ireland will be re-united someday due to the high catholic birth rate. No one in Britain defends the wrongs done to ireland in the past I second your closing comments
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 22:28:33
@jonoessex I am relatively young but it does pain me 2 see this tiny island divided and having to endure a long lasting legacy of pain + troubles but that's just the way it is? .I hope you understand my perspective and why it is such an awkward topic. Just have to wait and see what the future holds but the ties between Britain and Ireland have improved substantially even in the last decade alone.10 years ago we would have laughed at the thought of the Queen visiting so long may it continue..
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 22:20:23
@jonoessex " I'm consistent in my opposition to war? (unless it's absolutely necessary)." +1 Well we finally agree on something anyway ;-) The dissidents are despised by all communites (for the most part) and? they will not succeed in their aims.The only way now is peace and negotiations.There is now approx 16% of people in Northern Ireland who are in favour of a United Ireland (some of that has got to do with the South's disastrous economy) so we have to respect the majority and move on.
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 21:13:37
@1984ioc The conflict in NI? was a legacy of british imperialism in ireland. That's true but British policy was not imperialistic during the troubles. I think the old IRA had much stronger moral justification for it's actions. I have no issue with patriotic irish people admiring the old IRA who were fighting against the british empire. It's the PIRA's I have an issue with and as you will agree the dissidents
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 21:09:41
@1984ioc I'm anti-IRA and would defend the british military in NI. However I have strenuously opposed british wars in iraq and afghanistan. I was on the first protest against the afghan war in 2001. I also took part in the huge 2003 march? against the war in iraq. I'm consistent in my opposition to war (unless it's absolutely necessary).
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 21:01:06
@1984ioc That's? ok then.
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:51:20
@jonoessex What has happened in Northern Ireland is a direct? result from your Imperialistic days and there are consequences for your actions whether you like it or not. Once again i apologise if i offended you but it is a sensitive issue which you obvioulsy know and sometimes these things can get heated.
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:48:57
@jonoessex While you are right to condemn some of the IRA's tactics during? the troubles maybe you should look closer to home too.Ye have a shocking record of torture and breaking international laws (research waterboarding in northern ireland) so i just find it hypocritical of you in some ways.I have no sympathies for the IRA groups these days but obviously have massive respect for the original IRA as do all Irish people.Everyone here has family that fought or worked for them.
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:38:42
@jonoessex My apologies for some of my remarks in the last message and would like if we can continue this in a reasonable manner.I did also not descend into a load of anti-british bile.I do NOT hate the British,quite the opposite and even have family that represented England on the international sports scene in the past despite coming from Ireland. I do believe that you have a distorted view of the political scene here in some aspects but then again maybe i have distorted views on? such matters.
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 20:28:59
@1984ioc You initially sounded like a reasonable person. Then you descended into a load of anti-british bile!? I don'tknow why you don't just join RSF or eirigi if you hate the british so much.
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 20:03:55
@jonoessex This is getting good.I love it.A brit trying to take the high moral ground on such matters as international laws,torture,killing of innocent civilians.I am warming my hands in excitement.Off for dinner and will be back then to discuss illegal invasions,torture,international laws and torture just to name a few.Glorious Imperial Britain eh?They did everything by the book just as in Iraq and Afghanistan.The most? detested nation on earth.Back in a while and let's discuss this properly.
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 19:58:16
@1984ioc You are underestimating the british media. British people have a mixture of opinions on the issue. There are alot of british people who sympathised with the IRA. I often argued? with friends who sympathised with them. The right-wing press would be more anti-republican and the left-wing more pro-irish nationalist. Almost all the films made about the troubles are from a nationalist perspective. People in britain are exposed to a range of views on the issue and have a range of views.
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 19:51:43
@1984ioc British army adherence to international law during the troubles was obviously much better than the IRA's. R U being serious? The IRA had no prohition of torture, the british army did. The british Army prohibited it's soldiers from killing any one who was unarmed even IRA members. How many banks did the british army rob? How many people did the british army kidnap? The IRA didn't follow the rules? of war at all whilst most of the time the british army did.
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 19:46:39
@jonoessex Well thank god they represent such a tiny proportion of people on this island and that they are a dying breed.The younger generations here do not want a return and fortunately they are the future.A United Ireland is out of the question for the foreseeable future and the British won't budge so? their attempts will end in vain. If you want to associate all Republicanism and Nationalism with Eirigi and Republican SF then that is your choice but you couldn't be further from reality.
By: jonoessex. on 05 Dec 11, 19:39:11
@1984ioc Most people in Ireland don't want a return to violence I know that. Brian leeson from eirigi does want a return to violence he's almost said as much and he is eirigi chairman. Eirigi and? republican sinn fein were involved in the protests and they want a return to violence.
By: 1984ioc. on 05 Dec 11, 18:46:33
@jonoessex Regards the conventions of international law i do believe that Britain's record is far worse regarding these laws (even in the past? decade alone) then the IRA/PIRA.I am not talking about those scum dissident groups here as they represent such a tiny proportion they r not even worth mentioning.Not calling you ignorant either but i do believe that lots of Brits have a distorted view of the past here because of biased media/history books etc. which even politicians admitted was the case